Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office woes

2014-02-07 Thread Carl Paulsen
I suppose you're right. With some work I could have found a workaround, and I appreciate your idea. My issue is much more about the way MSO is set up by default, and changes to that are not especially apparent. But your point is well taken. Carl On 2/7/14 11:26 PM, marianne-x wrote: On 2/7

Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office woes

2014-02-07 Thread Carl Paulsen
OK, to this and other recent posts, please note that my intent wasn't to open a rant-fest. I have found myself wondering about the claims about file structure being a problem even for MSO itself. My original post was intended to provide one example of a case where Excel saved a specific file

Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office woes

2014-02-07 Thread marianne-x
On 2/7/2014 9:10 PM, Carl Paulsen wrote: The biggest problem is that if the formula doesn't meet MSO's standards, you can't leave it in place to work on later. I've had formulas which took me days to work out, and if I can't leave them in place even when faulty, then I have to re-create them e

Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office woes

2014-02-07 Thread James Knott
Mark LaPierre wrote: > MS is lost in the concept of making all interfaces look the same on > Windows Phone, Surface, and desktop. MS Office 2013 totally ignores the > setting and scheme that you have on your desktop. I'm talking serious > eye strain. People have been complaining about it for mor

Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office woes

2014-02-07 Thread null
Hello, I thought I should add to the rant: If you think Microsoft Excel not being able to import formats it exports is bad, consider Microsoft's disastrous "OpenXML" standards. Notice I said standards, not standard. .docx, .pptx, and other files with x at the end are stored in the Microso

Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office woes

2014-02-07 Thread Mark LaPierre
On 02/07/2014 02:04 PM, Carl Paulsen wrote: > Just a rant here from someone who is reasonably sophisticated at both > LO/OO and MS Office. I've had to use MS Office for work lately, and > I've run into a TON of frustrations. Biggest recent frustrations: > > 1. The auto-fill and other "aides" in

Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office woes

2014-02-07 Thread Carl Paulsen
On 2/7/14 4:24 PM, anne-ology wrote: Can you go into the properties to turn off the auto-fills? - that's always been my solution. True enough. But my point is it's set up to work oddly. 1. The auto-fill and other "aides" in MSO make it much HARDER to construct formula fi

Re: [libreoffice-users] All of the messages in Nabble are suddenly going into the "AndrOpen Office" thread!

2014-02-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Another way is to use "Forward" and then copy&paste back to the list. When you notice a thread has been hijacked it's quite a neat way of breaking the new subject out into a new thread of it's own. Regards from Tom :) On 7 February 2014 20:14, J. Randal Matheny wrote: > You said / Você di

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO and Coreldraw

2014-02-07 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Paddy, Pat Brown schrieb: I had a number of files in CorelDraw format (.cdr) which I had opened and edited in LO. I then saved these as .odg files. This worked fine until I installed LO 4.2. Since then I have not been able to open either CorelDraw files nor LO files converted from CorelDraw.

Re: [libreoffice-users] What do you think of AndrOpenOffice?

2014-02-07 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
On 02/07/2014 02:38 PM, Daniel wrote: Why isn't there a libreoffice version ??? There is some movement to make a "LibreOffice for Android", but there are a lot of work in that. Converting to Android means you must "strip down" a lot of functions OR it will be too large to run on all but the

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO and Coreldraw

2014-02-07 Thread Kracked_P_P---webmaster
Maybe you should try converting the Corel Draw [which version?] files to the ".svg" format that Inkscape and other use. Maybe LO 4.2 can open them. I am slowly converting my Corel Draw 11 files to .svg, since I use Ubuntu and Inkscape now. Have to open up an older laptop to run Corel Draw

Re: [libreoffice-users] MS Office woes

2014-02-07 Thread anne-ology
Can you go into the properties to turn off the auto-fills? - that's always been my solution. [see further comments interspersed below] From: Carl Paulsen Date: Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 1:04 PM Subject: [libreoffice-users] MS Office woes To: "users@global.libreoffice.org"

Re: [libreoffice-users] What do you think of AndrOpenOffice?

2014-02-07 Thread anne-ology
This site seems to explain the difference - http://liliputing.com/2013/12/andropen-office-is-a-full-office-suite-for-android-based-on-apache-openoffice.html From this, I would guess these are for different machines - LO for PCs and this, AndrOO, for those smaller text th

Re: [libreoffice-users] All of the messages in Nabble are suddenly going into the "AndrOpen Office" thread!

2014-02-07 Thread J. Randal Matheny
You said / Você disse: > I don't know if it's the case here, but people do sometimes reply to an > existing email to the list and just change the subject line (presumably > to save looking up the address for the list). That isn't enough to make > it a different thread - there are separate header

Re: [libreoffice-users] All of the messages in Nabble are suddenly going into the "AndrOpen Office" thread!

2014-02-07 Thread Mark Bourne
null wrote: Hello, Well, if this appears as a separate subject (in the Users archive on Nabble), then the problem was fixed. It seems as if all of the posts (even different subjects and conversations) are going into the "What do you think of AndrOpen Office?" thread on Nabble. A conversatio

[libreoffice-users] What do you think of AndrOpenOffice?

2014-02-07 Thread Daniel
Why isn't there a libreoffice version ??? -- -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarc

[libreoffice-users] MS Office woes

2014-02-07 Thread Carl Paulsen
Just a rant here from someone who is reasonably sophisticated at both LO/OO and MS Office. I've had to use MS Office for work lately, and I've run into a TON of frustrations. Biggest recent frustrations: 1. The auto-fill and other "aides" in MSO make it much HARDER to construct formula field

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: L.O. 4.0.5 pb enregistrement fichier

2014-02-07 Thread Cley Faye
2014-02-07 Tom Davies : > Hi :) > I also often find that LibreOffice doesn't let me save over the top of > files stored on our network file-shares. It only does seem to work if > using the same computer. When i go to a different machine i use that > as an opportunity to add/upodate a version num

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO and Coreldraw

2014-02-07 Thread Alex Thurgood
On 07/02/2014 16:09, Pat Brown wrote: Pat, > I had a number of files in CorelDraw format (.cdr) which I had opened and > edited in LO. I then saved these as .odg files. This worked fine until I > installed LO 4.2. Since then I have not been able to open either CorelDraw > files nor LO files conv

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: L.O. 4.0.5 pb enregistrement fichier

2014-02-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I also often find that LibreOffice doesn't let me save over the top of files stored on our network file-shares. It only does seem to work if using the same computer. When i go to a different machine i use that as an opportunity to add/upodate a version number to the end of the document name

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO and Coreldraw

2014-02-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) I think it's probably best to 1. post a bug-report about it and leave it to QA (bug squad) to triage and 2. revert your own system to 4.1.4 or something or install the more stable-branch alongside the feature-rich branch. It might take us a while before we respond to something like this on

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread Alex Thurgood
On 07/02/2014 08:38, Ian Whitfield wrote: Hi Ian, For some reason, your question shows up in Thunderbird in the thread about Andropenoffice, hoping that you haven't hijacked it... > 1) Where does MySQL store the Database? (I think it's in the root > somewhere) It is usually (but not always) sto

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: L.O. 4.0.5 pb enregistrement fichier

2014-02-07 Thread Cley Faye
2014-02-07 emmanuel73 : > les fichiers sont accessibles via un lecteur réseau monté par GPO > \\nom du serveur\partage$\ > > > je viens d'essayer de puger le profil libre office mais sans résultat. > > Un vieux problème similaire, dont je ne sais pas si il est résolu​​, était lié à l'extension pou

[libreoffice-users] Re: LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread Alex Thurgood
On 07/02/2014 16:29, Lens Paul wrote: > > What is the best combination for a single user, relational database, > stable in the long run, using Base as the front end? > Play around with the new "experimental" integrated Firebird db in LO 4.2. You need to switch on the experimental features to be

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) A quick "back of an envelope" risk-analysis might suggest that although the effects can be fairly devastating the likelihood of that occurring is fairly low so it might be acceptable. It might be something like that which led Ian's "MySql expert" to say it was fine only for proto-typing, or

[libreoffice-users] Re: L.O. 4.0.5 pb enregistrement fichier

2014-02-07 Thread emmanuel73
les fichiers sont accessibles via un lecteur réseau monté par GPO \\nom du serveur\partage$\ je viens d'essayer de puger le profil libre office mais sans résultat. -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/L-O-4-0-5-pb-enregistrement-fichier-tp4095992p4096047.html

[libreoffice-users] Re: L.O. 4.0.5 pb enregistrement fichier

2014-02-07 Thread emmanuel73
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: low traffic lately?

2014-02-07 Thread James E Lang
Ouch! Who would-a thought my simple apology would start this firestorm? -- Jim Then, would you please consider the pros vs. cons of this list as well as all the users of this list who are seeking help then offering help. Here are more logical steps of top-posting vs. bot

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread Jay Lozier
On 02/07/2014 10:29 AM, Lens Paul wrote: Hello, This instability of HSQL is worrying when using the same database year after year, e.g. an address or a bibliographic database. For my part, all my data remain in separate external tables in dbf format, linked to Base. Reasons are: - compati

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread Lens Paul
Hello, This instability of HSQL is worrying when using the same database year after year, e.g. an address or a bibliographic database. For my part, all my data remain in separate external tables in dbf format, linked to Base. Reasons are: - compatibility with many programmes and readability

[libreoffice-users] LO and Coreldraw

2014-02-07 Thread Pat Brown
I had a number of files in CorelDraw format (.cdr) which I had opened and edited in LO. I then saved these as .odg files. This worked fine until I installed LO 4.2. Since then I have not been able to open either CorelDraw files nor LO files converted from CorelDraw. LO tries to open the file and th

[libreoffice-users] Autoupdate formula result in Calc cell in Impress

2014-02-07 Thread Justin Barker (TEMA TOC)
We want an Impress presentation to run on a continuous loop (24/7). We have one page where we would like to count the number of days from a specific date. How can I do this without having to edit the object every day? Best Regards, Justin Barker Contractor TEMA - Production Engineering +1.85

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread Jay Lozier
On 02/07/2014 09:07 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote: Sorry All I'm running PClinuxOS (latest) and LO 4.1.2.3 and MySQL 5.1.55 A MySQL 'expert' was telling me recently that HSQL is only meant to be a prototyping utility and should *NEVER* be used for any "proper" work - - interesting!!?? I can conf

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread null
Hello, On 2/7/2014 9:07 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote: Sorry All I'm running PClinuxOS (latest) and LO 4.1.2.3 and MySQL 5.1.55 Do you know the path of the installation directory for MySQL? There should be a my.cnf file somewhere in it. If you can't find it, you can run "sudo find / -name my.cnf"

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread Ian Whitfield
Sorry All I'm running PClinuxOS (latest) and LO 4.1.2.3 and MySQL 5.1.55 A MySQL 'expert' was telling me recently that HSQL is only meant to be a prototyping utility and should *NEVER* be used for any "proper" work - - interesting!!?? I can confirm that when it crashes it takes everything wi

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread Jay Lozier
On 02/07/2014 08:40 AM, Andrew Douglas Pitonyak wrote: On 02/07/2014 02:38 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote: Hi All I've been using the Base/MySQL combination since mid-last year now and it is fantastic!! It is much faster, never crashes or freezes and just works the way it is supposed to. I can def

[libreoffice-users] All of the messages in Nabble are suddenly going into the "AndrOpen Office" thread!

2014-02-07 Thread null
Hello, Well, if this appears as a separate subject (in the Users archive on Nabble), then the problem was fixed. It seems as if all of the posts (even different subjects and conversations) are going into the "What do you think of AndrOpen Office?" thread on Nabble. A conversation about Li

Re: [libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread Andrew Douglas Pitonyak
On 02/07/2014 02:38 AM, Ian Whitfield wrote: Hi All I've been using the Base/MySQL combination since mid-last year now and it is fantastic!! It is much faster, never crashes or freezes and just works the way it is supposed to. I can definitely recommend it to anyone!! (In my opinion this sho

Re: [libreoffice-users] L.O. 4.0.5 pb enregistrement fichier

2014-02-07 Thread Cley Faye
Le 7 février 2014 10:14, emmauel73 a écrit : > Bonjour, > > je viens de déplacer, via l'utilitaire robotcopy, des fichiers vers un > nouveau serveur de fichier. L'ouverture des fichiers Libre Office sur ce > nouveau serveur ne pose pas de problème, en revanche il m'est impossible de > les sauveg

[libreoffice-users] L.O. 4.0.5 pb enregistrement fichier

2014-02-07 Thread emmauel73
Bonjour, je viens de déplacer, via l'utilitaire robotcopy, des fichiers vers un nouveau serveur de fichier. L'ouverture des fichiers Libre Office sur ce nouveau serveur ne pose pas de problème, en revanche il m'est impossible de les sauvegarder après modifications. J'obtiens un message du type 'e

Re: [libreoffice-users] how to tell m$ about ods formula behaviour failure

2014-02-07 Thread e-letter
On 07/02/2014, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I no longer follow these lists, so I'm of limited help. > > If gnumeric produces an ods file, Excel 2013 should attempt to read it. > However, the format you gave as an example is not ODF and I am doubtful. I > don't have gnumeric, so I can't check that

[libreoffice-users] Re: What do you think of AndrOpenOffice? (nm)

2014-02-07 Thread Alex Thurgood
Le 27/12/2013 21:32, Jeffrey Deutsch a écrit : I found the Base module to be fairly unstable, as in, it crashes a lot, but the other modules are fairly usable on both my Nexus 7 and Asus Transformer Pad, the advantage of the latter being that I have a real keyboard ;-) The UI does need some work

[libreoffice-users] LO Base/MySQL questions

2014-02-07 Thread Ian Whitfield
Hi All I've been using the Base/MySQL combination since mid-last year now and it is fantastic!! It is much faster, never crashes or freezes and just works the way it is supposed to. I can definitely recommend it to anyone!! (In my opinion this should be the standard and HSQL should be droppe