Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-17 Thread elderdanlewis
ssage From: Tom Davies Date:07/16/2014 7:48 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Paul Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table Hi :) There is a big difference between theory and practice. That doesn't mean either is wrong. Find

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-16 Thread Tom Davies
Interbase/Firebird etc are all fully competent relational databases, and > so is HSQLDB far as I know, but things like MongoDB aren't. SQLite is a > bit of an anomaly in that it doesn't really do all the stuff of a > proper relational database behind the scenes, but it can still be

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-15 Thread Paul
a bit of an anomaly in that it doesn't really do all the stuff of a proper relational database behind the scenes, but it can still be used as one. > Your database is only as good as your plan! > > > > > Original message ---- > From: Girvin Herr >

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-15 Thread dave boland
Herr > Date:07/10/2014 4:17 PM (GMT-05:00) > To: users@global.libreoffice.org > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users">libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing > Base table > > Dave, > I use the MySQL server and have added table fields before. It is simple > in the L

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-15 Thread elderdanlewis
: Girvin Herr Date:07/10/2014 4:17 PM (GMT-05:00) To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table Dave, I use the MySQL server and have added table fields before. It is simple in the LO Base table design window. Tables -> right click

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-12 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Thanks! :) I think it's definitely good to learn more about what back-ends are available and what they are each best for. Also good when FUD or just misunderstandings can be cleared up. Thanks for that :) Regards from Tom :) On 12 July 2014 05:42, Marion & Noel Lodge wrote: > Hi Tom

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-11 Thread Marion & Noel Lodge
Hi Tom, In relation to the H2 database you said - > I get the impression that H2 is also a small, fast one but could easily be wrong. All of my H2 databases would be classified as small, but a couple of years ago an H2 user posted on the Users Group that inserts to his data base slowed down sig

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-11 Thread dave boland
IanW, I'm concerned with Base, but I have some things to put together for next Fri. which will be the data in some report. No big deal - just a starting point. Since time is tight, do you think I would be smarter to continue with Base/HSQL, or go to Base as the front tend and MySQL or MariaDB as

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-11 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Actually HsqlDb from their own site is usually a huge improvement over the internal back-end version and is apparently really good too. However i think HsqlDb aims to be for small, light-weight but extremely fast databases so it probably wouldn't suit this particular use-case. I get the

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-11 Thread Ian Whitfield
On 07/11/2014 04:21 PM, dave boland wrote: Thank you Noel. I will check this out. My head is spinning right now with all of the choices. I need to get something together for next Fri., so I'm going with LO Base for now. Seems like a decent choice because I will be the only user for most of t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-11 Thread dave boland
Thank you Noel. I will check this out. My head is spinning right now with all of the choices. I need to get something together for next Fri., so I'm going with LO Base for now. Seems like a decent choice because I will be the only user for most of the rest of the year. Later this year there ma

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-11 Thread Marion & Noel Lodge
Hi Dave, You might also like to have a look at the H2 Database Engine, see - http://www.h2database.com/html/main.html I have found that it is a good stable replacement for HSQLDB and have used it in 6 different databases with good success. There is an active users group, and some of them report

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) 1st thing is that Base is best when used 'just' as a front-end and with all the data in some back-end such as MySql/MariaDb, Postgresql, HsqlDb or whatever. Generally i think it should be possible to fill an existing field, in all rows, by using an action Query. However, i am really surpris

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-10 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Errr, actually, using your spreadsheets as the back-end might be a good way of doing it. At least while you are still exploring and planning. Once proper data starts coming in it's going to need a much heftier back-end. One of the advantages of Base is that it can be swapped to reading a d

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-10 Thread dave boland
All, I want to thank all of you for your very helpful responses. Yes, it has bee a long time since I have used databases. Last was about 10 years ago when I used Access with SQL for a real time data acquisition system. That was a challenge! What I'm doing now is creating a database of data tha

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-10 Thread Paul
Hi Dave, Having worked as a business systems designer and coder, I've dealt with databases and database changes a lot. And the users always end up changing stuff later. Some of what I am going to say may be obvious or stuff you already know; if so I apologise, but your question makes it seem like

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-10 Thread dave boland
On Thu, Jul 10, 2014, at 03:51 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) 1st thing is that Base is best when used 'just' as a front-end and with all the data in some back-end such as MySql/MariaDb, Postgresql, HsqlDb or whatever. Generally i think it should be possible to fill an existing field, in all rows,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-10 Thread Girvin Herr
Dave, I use the MySQL server and have added table fields before. It is simple in the LO Base table design window. Tables -> right click on table -> select Edit MySQL accepts these changes and adds the field. Of course, then you must add the new field to your forms, queries, relationships and

[libreoffice-users] Adding fields to existing Base table

2014-07-10 Thread dave boland
I'm setting up a database that is small (three tables, may grow to 3GB over next year). I need a strategy to deal with the unknown, which is how to add fields to an existing table. I read in the docs that doing this can be painful and it is required to put something in each field for each record.