Re: [libreoffice-users] treatment of blank cells

On 08/19/2013 03:10 PM, Gregory Smith - Oracle Sparc Verification wrote: I am disappointed that Libre Office does not treat blank cells as a zero in math calculations. I have a dozen spreadsheets from Excel and Open Office that take advantage of this fact. Now I get errors with Libre Office.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

On 08/19/2013 11:05 PM, Ken Springer wrote: Hi, Vigil, So, if I read your message correctly, there is no official "body" that sets typographic standards, only general conventions used by most, but may not be the best for end user/reader. Would that be correct? Not quite. I agree there

[libreoffice-users] A neat feature

I always enjoy finding a new feature in LO, one that I never knew existed. That recently happened to me as was playing with paragraph styles. One of the features I have always liked about LaTeX is the way in which the size of its headings fonts is tied to its base font with designations such a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Can't find setting

On 08/20/2013 06:01 PM, William Wells wrote: While there is no ISO or equivalent, there are a lot of wannabe: In the US: The "real" expert (in the US) on this subject seems to be the Chicago Manual of Style. It sets forth what Publishers desire/want/will not accept unless it complies with rega

Re: [libreoffice-users] A neat feature (base and related font sizes)

On 08/21/2013 05:23 AM, Gabriel Risterucci wrote: About linked styles, remember that among the display options, ​​beside "display all" and "only used styles", there is the "hierarchical" option that display exactly this kind of link between various styles :-) It's also quite useful, because you

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

In my experience, most paragraph styles tend to translate well to MS-Word formats. However, I've had problems with the alignment of automatic numbering and/or bullets. LO and MSW seem to align them differently. One bigger difference, however, is the way the two formats handle page formatting.

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

Ryan wrote: Regarding page formatting — I'm wondering if I use slightly more advanced features of LibreOffice to get my results whether it would cause more problems when working in Word. I think that's a good way of phrasing the issue. I think the more we use methods that are unique to LO, s

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

essage- From: Info/UX Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 5:38 PM To: Tom Davies Cc: Virgil Arrington ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats? Thanks, Tom, Virgil. If I wanted to use different text body styles t

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

x27;s .doc translation is extremely good, much better than I remember from previous versions. Virgil -Original Message- From: Info/UX Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 6:40 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: Tom Davies ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragr

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

When will you guys across the pond realize that “normal” letter paper is 8.5 by 11 inches? Virgil From: Tom Davies Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:04 PM To: Info/UX ; Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

OFL Sorts Mill Goudy. Virgil -Original Message- From: Info/UX Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:20 PM To: Virgil Arrington Cc: Tom Davies ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats? Thanks a lot for that,

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

A unit of measurement in what is commonly known as the “English” system. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 7:44 PM To: Info/UX ; Virgil Arrington Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles

Re: [libreoffice-users] LibreOffice paragraph styles exported to other software/formats?

., Linux Libertine G. They work best with the typographic toolbar extension. See, http://www.numbertext.org/linux/fontfeatures.pdf and http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/typo. Virgil From: Tom Davies Sent: Monday, August 26, 2013 8:00 PM To: Virgil Arrington ; Info/UX Cc: users

Re: [libreoffice-users] spacing after punctuation

Am I reading this right? Is Jury suggesting that space after periods actually be *less* than a standard word space? If so, that is diametrically opposed to the typewriter standard of adding two spaces after sentence ending punctuation. Virgil -Original Message- From: T. R. Valentin

Re: [libreoffice-users] spacing after punctuation

efore they lose all social skills. From: Virgil Arrington Date: Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] spacing after punctuation To: "T. R. Valentine" , LibreOffice-list < users@global.libreoffice.org> Am I reading this right? Is Jury suggesting that

Re: [libreoffice-users] spacing after punctuation

On 09/05/2013 07:10 PM, Dave Liesse wrote: Virgil, I'll have to disagree with your last sentence. It's quite obvious to me when there are two spaces after a sentence-ending period rather than just one, even with proportional fonts (allowing for the possibility that there's a font somewhere wit

Re: [libreoffice-users] spacing after punctuation

On 09/05/2013 07:26 PM, anne-ology wrote: Well, I guess I'm an a-typical reader - although quite voracious - since I do notice the grammar, the punctuation, et.al. ;-) If the difference is between one space and two spaces, I agree that is very noticeable. But, what Jury is advocatin

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/06/2013 05:20 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 9/5/13 9:23 AM, T. R. Valentine wrote: As a follow-up to our earlier discussion of one versus two spaces following a full point/full stop/period, I offer the following passage from /About Face: Reviving the Rules of Typography/ by David Jury (typos

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

ringer Sent: Friday, September 06, 2013 9:36 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation On 9/6/13 6:56 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 09/06/2013 05:20 PM, Ken Springer wrote: On 9/5/13 9:23 AM, T. R. Valentine wrote: As a follow-up to ou

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

Bruce Byfield wrote: I know of several publishers who work directly from ODF files. With a couple of exceptions, Writer has most of the tools needed for a thoroughly professional design job, allegedly because when the original code was being written in the days of Star Division, they were told

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

If it helps, and I doubt it will, as a member of the larger audience, I fully understood what John was describing based on what he had written, which is exactly as Tom represented it. Virgil -Original Message- From: Brian Barker Sent: Sunday, September 08, 2013 11:44 AM To: users@glo

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

Jonathan wrote, I think the avoidance of true small caps and old style numbering has more to do with the practice of font creators, most of whom omit these features. That might be true for FLOSS font creators. It is not true for the foundries whose fonts are in the 4+ digit price range. Ac

Re: [libreoffice-users] Table Breaks in Writer

James wrote, Brian Barker wrote: So after a month they would either purchase Microsoft Office and not need LibreOffice or else install LibreOffice and no longer have a functioning copy of Microsoft Office? In neither case would they have both ... I've had OpenOffice or LibreOffice on work co

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote: [cut] However, LO has one wonderful advantage. The free font, Linux Libertine G, has many expert effects, and LO can access them all. It's an excellent typeface, and so far, the latest LO s

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/09/2013 02:49 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: [snip, snip] I am a font person, and do not use the Libertine and Biolinium fonts often. But I agree with your statement that each version of LO is displaying and printing better than the last one, some some people. The "graphics" engine th

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/09/2013 05:59 PM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 09/09/13 19:49, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: On 09/09/2013 11:52 AM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 09/09/2013 10:57 AM, Peter Hillier-Brook wrote: On 09/09/13 12:57, Virgil Arrington wrote: [cut] However, LO has one wonderful advantage

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

Libertine G have really gelled nicely together. Virgil -Original Message- From: T. R. Valentine Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 11:21 AM To: LibreOffice-list Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation On 9 September 2013 06:57, Virgil Arrington wrote: However, LO has

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/09/2013 07:45 PM, Doug wrote: On 09/09/2013 06:04 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 09/09/2013 02:49 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: [snip, snip] This is where Linux Libertine G comes in. Although it is modeled after Times, it's not quite as condensed, so it works better for l

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/10/2013 11:43 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: On Tue, 10 Sep 2013 21:32:48 -0400 doug dijo: Whatever is the "wonderful" one, I'll try it and see if is appeals to me over just everyday Times-Roman. I have LO 3.5.7.2 on a recent fresh install and up to date Xubuntu 12.04. I have done a lot of

RE: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

Kracked_P_P wrote: [snip] > First - - - > Everyone has their own opinion of which font is the most "wonderful" one > that they have used. > > Second - - - > There are a few "ideas" on what a "book" font is, but for me a book font > is one that is really easy to read for extended periods, like in

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/11/2013 01:10 PM, Séamas Ó Brógáin wrote: John Jason Jordan wrote: I'm also curious why this works only with the LinuxLibertineG fonts. Adobe InDesign had these features 14 years ago, and they have always worked with any OTF font installed on the computer . . . The reason is that Graphit

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/11/2013 02:40 PM, Bruce Byfield wrote: On Wednesday 11 September 2013 10:52:42 AM Virgil Arrington wrote: > These codes do the following: > > onum=1 (Turn on Old Style Numbering) > itlc=2 (Adjust the spacing around italics text) Without this, the > italics text gets ja

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/11/2013 12:31 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote: That was the problem. The version in the Ubuntu repos was not the G version. Thanks for pointing that out. However, not all of the features are working, or maybe I don't understand how to use them. All ligature styles, small caps, old style numer

[libreoffice-users] Linux hyphenation

I need some help with my Linux LO installation. I'm running Linux Mint 15, and LO 4.0.5. I recently noticed that hyphenation doesn't work. I don't know if it ever did, so I can't say that it just recently stopped working. My language settings tell me that I have spell check and thesaurus mod

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

On 09/12/2013 02:49 PM, T. R. Valentine wrote: That is similar to what I want it to do for me. But I can't seem to get the italic function to work. I've tried making the value 0, 1, and 2, and can see absolutely no difference, even when using the example in the help page ('a leaf louse'). I'm u

Re: [libreoffice-users] Linux hyphenation

On 09/12/2013 11:39 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think that is 2 separate questions. (Not completely convinced but i think it is) For hyphenation try Tools - Options - "Language Settings" - "Writing Aids" and then near the bottom of the bottom box as well as near the top of the top one. I t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: spacing after punctuation

I've never paid money for a font. Not only do I not want to have to spend money, I want to know that my fonts are available on all the machines I use. At least here in America, font files are treated as computer software and subject to copyright protection even though the font design itself is not

Re: [libreoffice-users] Linux hyphenation

Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: In the top box of the "Writing Aids", I see Hunspell Spellchecker, Libhyphen Hyphenator, Lightproof grammar checker, and Openoffice.org New Thesaurus. I'm missing the "Libhyphen Hyphenator" and "Lightproof Grammar Checker". I'll try renaming the profile. I've do

Re: [libreoffice-users] Linux hyphenation

On 09/13/2013 04:51 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: The .config folder is a hidden folder as well, so that messes people up as well. I know where it is located with Debian-based Linux, Like Ubuntu and Mint, but not on the RPM based installs of LO. I do not know why you do not have those two

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation

al Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 10:19 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation On 09/14/2013 08:28 AM, Urmas wrote: "Virgil Arrington": Have you tried to install 'hyphen-en-us'

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation

On 09/15/2013 11:24 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: OK, I went to Synaptic Package Manager and looked up "libhyphen". It was there as part of the Ubuntu packages. Maybe Mint did not install that package. So go to your package manager and look up and install that "Debian" package and see if t

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation

Thanks to all who were interested in this issue. Virgil -Original Message- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 1:28 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation On 09/15/2013 11:24 AM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote:

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Linux hyphenation

an irritation nonetheless. I still have a Mint installation on a jump drive. For now, when I want to play, I'll just boot from that and gain more experience. Once I learn more then I may invest the time and effort into a "proper" Linux system. Virgil

Re: [libreoffice-users] Duplicate messages

The only time I get duplicate messages is when a sender hits "reply all" in the email box, as I have done here. This list requires that behavior in order to send a reply to the list rather than only the original sender. So, you should get two copies of this email. However, I've never had to wai

[libreoffice-users] change default window size

Urmas wrote: >>"Maciej Jaros" >> It's a window manager thing, not really AOO responsibility. >It is LOO responsibility to properly restore its window size. So that is a bug. I don’t get it. I’m using LO with Windows 7. Every time I open LO, it opens in the same window size and position it was

Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

These two messages 'splain a lot. You Linux dudes are really weird. ;) Virgil -Original Message- From: Kracked_P_P---webmaster Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:53 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Corrupt Installer Errors?? I collect every non-m

Re: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

ackage crashed and would not allow me to reinstall it. I have been using it as my default desktop since early spring of 2010. I have all my Windows laptops dual booting to Ubuntu as well. There are something I need Windows for, but I rarely use it more than a few times a month. Yes, we are we

[libreoffice-users] Re: change default window size

Urmas wrote: >Position the window. Maximize it. Exit. Start LO again. Restore the window. >See now? No, I don’t. 1. I positioned the window. 2. I then maximized it. 3. I then exited the program. (Why someone would position a window, maximize, and then exit is beyond me, but that’s beside the

Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

Tom wrote: Mac Airlines All the stewards, captains, baggage handlers, and ticket agents are all friendly and attractive but all look and act exactly the same. Every time you ask questions about details, you are gently but firmly told that you don't need to know, don't want to know, and everyt

Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: [libreoffice-users] Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: I think we would have more Linux users if packages like LO can be installed with one "click" of the mouse onto the install file as Windows does with the .msi file. Having to do the terminal commands like "sudo dpkg -i *.deb " tends to make it a little harder. May

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing an OS, was: Fw: Penguins: (Was Corrupt Installer Errors??)

On 10/09/2013 05:22 PM, NoOp wrote: On 10/07/2013 10:14 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I once read an amusing article "If operating systems were airplanes". I couldn't find the one i read but managed to pluck these bits from Zyra's mad website.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

I went with 4.0.5 several weeks ago on my Win7 machine and couldn't be happier. It added some features I wanted (better support for the Libertine G fonts) and fixed the regression bug dealing with remembering my style list hierarchical listing. I imagine I'll be slower to upgrade from here as,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

Pedro wrote: "It is much slower" because it's running on a jump drive... I know that. Why don't you run it from your hard drive? You can unpack it anywhere and it won't affect the installed version in any way... The last time I installed a new version, I went from 3.5.7 to 4.0.5. The ver

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

Pedro wrote, If you unpack LibreOffice Portable or X-LibreOffice to your hard drive (e.g. to C:\X-LibreOffice412) it will remain contained in the unpack folder. It does *not* overwrite *any* files and it will not use your Profile files. So, all is completely separate. In fact if you miss s

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win XP Windows Installer Error - what was he fix again?

By the way, what's the story behind X-Libreoffice? What's its function other than being portable? Virgil -Original Message----- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 7:57 PM To: Pedro ; users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Win

Re: [libreoffice-users] install on debian wheezy

As an aside on this thread, I only observe that, if this is what it takes to install a newer version of LO on Linux, it may be some time before Linux can be taken seriously as an alternative to Windows. Just sayin' Virgil -Original Message- From: MirosławZalewski Sent: Saturday, O

Re: [libreoffice-users] Save as html file

Thomas Blasejewicz wrote: Good evening from Japan Maybe I did ask a similar question before ... I wrote a book using Writer which I am now trying to upload to Kindle. The instructions say, I must save the file as html and then create a zip file from the html file + the images. "Save as ... html

Re: [libreoffice-users] OSX Mavericks upgrade prevents LO from opening because of lack of java

Marc wrote, LO needs to make the jump so that it can use 1.7 or make it clear that LO will be java-free by version 4.x or some such but I think the latter would be potentially unfortunate If anyone's taking a poll, my vote is to make it java-free. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: use

Re: [libreoffice-users] OSX Mavericks upgrade prevents LO from opening because of lack of java

I don't know enough about the innards of LO and Java, but I've gotten Java error messages when using Base and when working with Macros. Virgil -Original Message- From: Dale Erwin Sent: Friday, November 01, 2013 6:10 PM To: Virgil Arrington ; users@global.libreoffice.org S

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

I don't want to speak for Urmas, or necessarily defend him, but I use many programs in addition to LO for my work, and in many respects I prefer other options over LO. I've often spoken of the Atlantis Word Processor, a very small Word clone that I keep going back to for its simplicity, speed an

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

I'm a strong proponents of Styles, and I teach them to my university students and insist that they use them in term papers for my class. But, I agree, they can get in the way when documents are shared among different collaborators. I have often shared documents with others. While I was using st

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria

urday, November 02, 2013 9:44 PM To: LibreOffice Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: [pt-br-usuarios] Estudantes da rede estadual de SP terão Office gratuito para até 5 PCs após parceria Virgil Arrington wrote: StarOffice users are Linux users? . . . . I have never seen StarOffice available for

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Engaging Users in the LibreOffice Project

I haven't read all of this discussion in line-by-line detail, so forgive me if I'm unduly repetitive. In my experience (government lawyer), larger organizations tend to prefer MSO over the free LO for several reasons. 1. Job Security. The old saying for IT Managers used to be, "Nobody ever go

[libreoffice-users] Wordstar

Urmas wrote: >That's bullshit. Ctrl+J is a shortcut for Justify and... a paragraph mark in >text controls. Actually, WordStar had different Ctrl+key functions than Word. Yes, today, Ctrl+J is a shortcut for Justify, but back in the WordStar days, Ctrl+J did something different, as did most Ctr

Re: [libreoffice-users] font drop-down menu list issue.

On 11/08/2013 02:18 PM, Kracked_P_P---webmaster wrote: Well, I stated in a different thread that I had an issue with 4.1.2 with the font drop-down list of fonts to change some highlighted text to. The 4.1.2 was for Calc and a 4 page sheet. Well, I now have had it go wacko with 4.0.5. Though I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: 64 bit

On 11/07/2013 07:29 AM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) 2 possible ways to make it go faster Toolos - Options - Memory and just ramp everything up that looks vaguely relevant. I tend to take things up to at least 20Mb but perhaps even higher like 200Mb might be better. Also which format are you using?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

FreeOffice is interesting. In many ways, it resembles LO or OOo. Does anyone know if it was some form of fork or dirivative? Virgil -Original Message- From: Doug Sent: Monday, November 18, 2013 7:10 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker On

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

-Original Message- From: John R. Sowden I dropped them a note requesting a copy of the license. They responded saying there is none. Does this mean that the free version is public domain? I'm not up on German law to know. No, it wouldn't be public domain (at least here in America)

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

Tom wrote: As for why bother to try other Office Suites or other programs there are many possible reasons; ... My reason for trying other programs is my obsessive search for software perfection. My "thing" is word processing, and ever since I abandoned DOS (and my PC-Write) in favor of Wind

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker

-Original Message- From: John Meyer Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 6:50 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Softmaker On 11/20/2013 4:44 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I think it's time to look at word processing from a new model. Rather

Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request - Categories for special characters

The recorded voicemail messages (at least here in the U.S.), always instruct us to "press the pound key." Virgil -Original Message- From: James Knott Sent: Friday, November 22, 2013 1:23 PM To: LibreOffice Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Feature Request - Categories for special char

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug report -- Libre Ofice version 4.1.3.2

I think what the Original Poster was seeking was a "semi-fixed" date. A fixed date would simply be the same as if one typed in the date by hand. It would never change. A "dynamic" date field would change every time the date changed. What I think the OP wants is for the field to reflect the date

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug report -- Libre Ofice version 4.1.3.2

swer was fairly simple. I have minimal need for this and didn't write it down. Maybe the regulars to this list will remember the answer. Don On 11/23/2013 08:14 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: > I think what the Original Poster was seeking was a "semi-fixed" date. > > A fixed

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Bug report -- LibreOffice version 4.1.3.2

I think you may have it. I just tried it on a file I modified yesterday, and I got yesterday's date. This is an excellent example of how we users often conclude that a program can't do something when all we're lacking is more information. It's also an example of how the LO developers might ma

Re: [libreoffice-users] Web layout crashes LO - update

-Original Message- From: Tom Davies I only just found your previous post. For some reason it went straight into my spam folder... I routinely find LO user list emails in my Windows Live junk mail folder. I have no idea how the filter selects some messages and not others. I have fo

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

James wrote in response to John: I didn't know we considered trialware "cunning". They let people create & edit documents for a while and then hold them hostage, until the users coughs up for MS Office. I wouldn't consider it either cunning or holding people hostage to provide them with a

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: Re: moving to new version of MS Office

James wrote: Ever hear of Linux? Besides those of us who use it on our desktops, it also runs about 95% of the super computers, most of the Internet (along with Apache), including the likes of Google, Yahoo and more, Android smart phones, embedded in appliances such as TVs, Bluray players etc.

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

I'll have to dig through my basement to see if I still have my PC-Write manual. I loved the cat on the cover. That cat sort of reminds me of the Linux penguin. Virgil -Original Message- From: James Knott Sent: Saturday, November 30, 2013 5:33 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sub

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

Marco wrote: ... because nobody, including many FOSS advocates, bothers enough to demand open file formats? My guess is that those of us who use LO in general, and those of us on this list, in particular, are a little more computer savvy than the typical office worker using MS-Office. When s

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

James wrote: No PC-Write??? ;-) Oh, stab me in the heart. My 64 bit computer tells me it won't run PC-Write (yes, I've tried). Also, my printers won't recognize DOS printer drivers. At any rate, PC-Write's document files were simple ASCII files with a few formatting codes thrown in; quite

Re: Cost of MS Office relative to LO, was: Fwd: [libreoffice-users] Re: moving to new version of MS Office

Jonathan wrote: Assuming the organization is not SoHo sized, or smaller, unless the person negotiating with Microsoft for licenses is a complete idiot, the license will allow for each employee to install MSO on their home computer, for the duration of their employment, or the corporate license

Re: [libreoffice-users] font liberation sans narrow, small capitals

I just tried it with mine. Selecting "small caps" turns *lower case* letters into small upper case letters. It does *not* change upper case letters into smaller upper case letters. This is normal behavior with LO (and other word processors). The program takes your typed lower case letters and

Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

I just noticed this thread, and I have to chime in that, the last time I tried to create labels, I too noticed that the LO Avery 5160 template alignment was off. I had to adjust the contents of every cell. At that time, I was still using LO 3.5.x. I have not yet tried since upgrading to the 4.x

Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

merge, one would need to add a space or two before entering the first field on each line. But, at least it's consistent throughout all three columns, whereas before, the right column was much worse than the left. Virgil -Original Message----- From: Virgil Arrington Sent: Thursday, D

Re: [libreoffice-users] font liberation sans narrow, small capitals

True; how did you know libertine g is a font with true small caps? Is there a list of such fonts somewhere? I discovered Libertine G during one of my obsessive Google searches for typefaces with expert typographic features. (In fact, that's how I discovered LaTeX. It was all because I wanted t

RE: [libreoffice-users] Font Qs

If you install fonts while LO is running it won't recognize them until you close LO and restart it. Virgil > Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2013 20:04:56 + > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Font Qs > From: tomc...@gmail.com > To: jsow...@americansentry.net > CC: users@global.libreoffice.org > > Hi :) >

Re: [libreoffice-users] Mail Merge and Labels

Don, Thank you for this. I knew I had seen something like that before. LO uses a frame based label template. I agree that a table based template makes far more sense. Virgil -Original Message- From: Don C. Myers Sent: Monday, December 16, 2013 7:34 PM To: users@global.libreoffice.o

Re: [libreoffice-users] with styles, is not master document functionality unnecessary+

Another benefit of master documents is that it forces all styles of the same name to appear the same. For example, suppose I have written five documents, all having a style called "BodySingle." But, in one document, my "BodySingle" style uses a Consolas font (good for on screen editing). In ano

Re: [libreoffice-users] low traffic lately?

I've seen a lot of traffic. I haven't responded because most of the questions have been about things I know little about. Virgil -Original Message- From: Tom Davies Sent: Friday, January 24, 2014 9:40 AM To: users@global.libreoffice.org Subject: [libreoffice-users] low traffic lately?

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: low traffic lately?

Brad wrote: Unfortunately, at least one MUA (guess which one) uses "Reply All" to mean "Reply List". This simply confuses matters. I'm assuming you're meaning MS. Actually, with my MS Windows Live Mail interface, "Reply All" means just that; it replies to everyone in the original message, w

[libreoffice-users] Neat Writer Feature -- Relative Font Sizes

I just thought I’d share a neat feature I recently discovered in Writer. The ability to set font sizes in styles as a percentage of the font size of a base style. For example, I often set documents in an 11 point font such as Palatino. My headings are then at 14 or 16 points. But, if I decide t

Re: [libreoffice-users]

If you're only talking about a few files, you can easily email them to yourself as attachments. Then when you get to school, just open up the email and your files will be there. There are also some cloud services out there, like Google Docs where you can store your documents online and access

Re: [libreoffice-users] Neat Writer Feature -- Relative Font Sizes

Tom wrote: I didn't know they could go that extreme and usually try to switch-off the relative font-sizes because the idea freaks me out. It feels like everything goes outside of my direct control! Ahh, control. That's one of the reasons I like LO; it gives me control over *everything*. By c

Re: [libreoffice-users] Neat Writer Feature -- Relative Font Sizes

e-letter wrote, What control is lost in latex? Fair question, and I probably should have worded it better. Yes, with LaTeX, you can control everything, but (at least in my experience) the learning curve to gain that control can be daunting. The GUI of LyX makes things easier, but even then,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Neat Writer Feature -- Relative Font Sizes

Cley wrote: They are tools. Power users of each tools will find that they are on the "better" side. Some peoples feel that latex, with all the commands everywhere is too ​>complicated, but when you learn a bit about it it's ok. Same for LibreOffice; there's properties dialog everywhere, multip

Re: [libreoffice-users] Open plain text with double-spacing

Plain text files are files without formatting. That's what makes them "plain" text. I've never known a way to apply paragraph formatting to a plain text file and have it remain with the file for later use. Virgil -Original Message- From: nicolai.ros...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, Febr

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

I haven't followed the entirety of this thread, but I live in a world which is (sadly perhaps) dominated by M$. Here in the U.S., Asus is running commercials about how good their netbooks are because they run "Office" (as opposed to Google Apps online with a Chromebook). In other words, they p

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

t OOXML in the UK On 02/25/2014 01:21 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: I haven't followed the entirety of this thread, but I live in a world which is (sadly perhaps) dominated by M$. Here in the U.S., Asus is running commercials about how good their netbooks are because they run "Office&qu

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

Virgil Arrington wrote: A few years ago, most lawyers in the U.S. used WordPerfect, and they really liked it. It had some features that were very suitable for the law office. However, most of their corporate clients were using Word. (Nobody ever got fired for buying Microsoft). Over time, law

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Defending ODF against OOXML in the UK

Gordon wrote: The IT dept refused to install it, saying they hadn't been "consulted". One example of the organisation existing for the IT dept's benefit, rather than the other way round! ;-) been there Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? ht

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