The upgrade does indeed present an opportunity to install apple java before invoking any of the apps. Having had prior experiencne with the Apple Java fiasco and took the OS up on its offer, lol. Unfortunately it looks like that install doesn't necessarily "take" (while I am sure the software is installed, my guess is that there are environmental variables that are not being fully set until some conjunction of the planets or the like
I did find a clue in that There are other apps it would appear that are suffering the same problems (not acknowledging the presence of the Apple JRE.) I have rebooted and reinstalled the Apple Java a number of times, and have finally been able to get it to "take" (though installation was exactly the same as prior instances and rebooting was not required.) I can tell you that I had to invoke a different app that demanded apple java that would not crash, and having installed Apple java (a 5th time) in response to that apps prompt, it "took". Then, on pulling up LO and looking at the JVM dialog, one could see the Apple JRE in the selector box (first time a java version appeared there since the upgrade.) This may also suggest that this problem may be a result of Apple changing locations of the JRE (that is apparently what broke Macports) but I am just guessing there. Apple did rip out all Java (1.6 AND Oracle 1.7) on upgrade, and I am wondering about LO's response where it is required to use a JVM, but can't find it -- in other words, why didn't LO (or other apps for that matter) see the Apple 1.6 JRE when initially installed when prompted by the OS, even after reboot. This smacks very much of the same kind of Java issues I saw on MountainLion. Eventually one could get Java 1.7 running along side Java 1.6, the latter being used for general OS invocation while the former could be used via CLI and for browsers... At present I now have LO running as it has "found" Apple Java 1.6 LO needs to make the jump so that it can use 1.7 or make it clear that LO will be java-free by version 4.x or some such.... but I think the latter would be potentially unfortunate On 11/1/13, 1:07 AM, Stephan Bergmann wrote: > On 10/31/2013 05:02 PM, Marc Grober wrote: >> It looks like the thread on addressing operating LO 4 under OSX >> Mavericks may have taken a small detour. >> >> Yes, Java is a bit of a disaster on OSX, and yes once you upgrade Apple >> blows away your java install so you have to start all over (but will >> prompt you to install their java.) >> >> Assuming you accept their invitation on reboot (the install will invite >> you to install an Apple Java jre) and then try to run LO (4.1.2.3) you > > Does the OS X upgrade itself indeed mention the possibility to > download an Apple JRE? I never noticed that. > >> will likely get an error message that allows you to either install a >> java (the install does not say what it is installing, nor from where) or >> quits. > > What I know is the following: > > After upgrade or fresh install of OS X (at least since 10.7, IIRC), a > java executable is installed that is merely a stub, bringing up a > dialog inviting you to download and install the real Apple JRE 6. > > When LO is run on such a "stub-only" machine, as soon as it tries to > detect a JRE (which might be rather sooner than expected, see the > "LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 (Mavericks)" thread on this > mailing list), it will run the stub java executable and thus trigger > the dialog. > > Now, for some it reportedly works fine to download and install the > Apple JRE via the dialog and continue working with LO (or even not > download and install it, and keep living with LO nagging you about a > missing JRE). But for some LO reportedly keeps crashing from that > dialog onwards, no matter how they interact with that dialog. But I > only know about that from here-say, and have never seen the problem > myself, and never seen a backtrace of the crashing LO that could give > us a clue what's going on there. > > (I "wasted" my opportunity to find out for myself when soon after > upgrading to OS X 10.9 I got confronted with the java stub dialog > outside the LO context and downloaded/installed it before I came > around to start LO.) > > But since, as described in the "LibreOffice 4.1.2 and Mac OS X 10.9 > (Mavericks)" thread on this mailing list, one unexpected side-effect > of bundling the Wiki Publisher extension with LO on Mac OS X is that > LO tries to detect a JRE as soon as you type a key in Writer, we > decided to deliver LO 4.1.3 for Mac OS X (from > <http://www.libreoffice.org/download>) without a bundled Wiki > Publisher extension. That should help to somewhat mitigate the > problem and have less people be annoyed by the problem. > > Stephan > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
